domingo, 17 de octubre de 2010

Reglas de Cartas Post torneo local Ver 1

Obviamente juecear es algo en situaciones complicado porque si te equivocas tienes que aguantar los regaños de los jugadores ademas de tener el poder de cambiar el resultado del duelo.
Bajo este punto, comenzare a subir en este blog rullings que puedan haber causado sospechas y/o confusiones dentro del local del dia.

17/10/2010

XX-Saber Fulhelmknight

Las cartas exclusivas usualmente no tienen rullings hasta que se hagan en Japon. pero ciertos criterios de las cartas y semejanza a rullings de otras con efectos similares facultan a los jueces a decidir efectos; en el caso de fulhelmknight existen 2 rullings que aclarar(que por cierto, son vigentes para los casos necesarios):

-Negar ataque: está, por convención determinado que el efecto de negar un ataque designa un monstruo en el campo (para las dudas con Machina Fortress)

-Revivir un "X-Saber": este es el mas complejo de los 2. Primero, compararemos el efecto del XX-Saber con una carta Antigua: "Blue Thunder T-45" y luego con "Blackwing - Shura the Blue Flame".

XX-Saber Fulhelmknight: If this card destroys a Defense Position monster your opponent controls by battle, you can Special Summon 1 level 4 or lower "X-Saber" monster from your Graveyard.

Blue Thunder T-45: When this card destroys an opponents monster by battle, Special Summon 1 "Thunder Option Token" (Machine-Type/LIGHT/Level 4/ATK 1500/DEF 1500). This Token cannot be Tributed for a Tribute Summon.

Rulling Blue Thunder T-45:

++ "Blue Thunder T-45's" effect activates at the end of the Damage Step, when the monster destroyed by battle is sent to the Graveyard.[Explicacion en el *1*]

++ If "Blue Thunder T-45" is destroyed by a card effect after damage calculation, its effect still activates.

*1*Se aprecia que al inicio el efecto de ambas cartas se pone el siguiente texto: " If/When this card destroys an opponents monster by battle, Special Summon..etc"; lo que determina que la carta no debe llegar al cementerio para que dicho efecto se active (activandose asi al destruir Tokens o al estar Macro Cosmos/Dimensional Fissure en el campo) Y que este efecto se activa un paso antes de que se resuelvan los efectos de flip. (despues del calculo de daño y antes de resolver efectos como Flips, por ejemplo)**






Ahora compararemos dichas cartas con el efecto de "Blackwing - Shura the Blue Flame", ademas que en el rulling de esta carta hallamos la respuesta a la interrogante anterior.

Efecto Blackwing - Shura the Blue Flame:
"When this card destroys an opponent's monster by battle and sends it to the Graveyard, you can Special Summon 1 "Blackwing" monster with 1500 or less ATK from your Deck. That monster's effect (s) is negated."

Rulling BW - Shura the Blue Flame:

++ In order for its effect to activate, “Blackwing - Shura the Blue Flame” must be face-up on the field when the monster it destroyed by battle is sent to the Graveyard. This means:
  • If Shura and the other monster destroy each other by battle (equal ATK), Shura’s effect does not activate.
  • If Shura is destroyed by a Flip Effect like “Man-Eater Bug,” Shura’s effect does not activate.
  • If Shura is flipped face-down after damage calculation by a card effect, such as “Desertapir,” Shura’s effect does not activate.
  • If Shura is removed from play by battling “D.D. Warrior,” Shura’s effect does not activate.
  • If Shura is destroyed by an effect after the monster it destroyed by battle was sent to the Graveyard, such as “Michizure,” Shura’s effect DOES activate, and you can Special Summon a monster.
  • NOTE: These rules also apply to any other monster with the text “When this card destroys an opponent’s monster by battle and sends it to the Graveyard….” (Examples: “Hydrogeddon,” “Goyo Guardian,” or “Elemental Hero Flame Wingman.”)
  • These rules do NOT apply to monsters with the text “When this card destroys an opponent’s monster by battle….” (but does not specify “and sends it to the Graveyard”). (Example: “Blue Thunder T-45”.) Monsters with that text will activate their effects in ALL of the above scenarios.
**Esto fue tema de debate y confusion en el torneo y me parecio bastante importante aclararlo**

Necrovalley.

Surgió una pregunta a base de esta puse una de las ediciones de necrovalley decia lo siguente:

"Negate the effects of Spells, Traps, and Effect Monsters that target a card(s) in either player's Graveyard. Cards in either player's Graveyard cannot be removed from play. All "Gravekeeper's" monsters gain 500 ATK and DEF. "

Este es el Texto de "Necrovalley" del Turbo Pack 2, el cual tiene un grave error de traduccion y explicacion; siendo el mas vigente y correcto el de "Structure Deck: Marik" que dice lo siguiente:
"All "Gravekeeper's" monsters gain 500 ATK and DEF. Cards in either player's Graveyard cannot be removed from play. Cards in either player's Graveyard cannot be affected by card effects, except for their own effects. "

**El de Turbo pack dice que no se puede Designar cartas del cementerio, mas el ultimo (y todas las demas ediciones de Necrovalley") dicen cartas que tengan que ver con el cementerio, siendo la correcta esta ultima**

Dejare todos los Textos de las ediciones de Necrovalley como evidencia (fuente: Yugioh Wikia)

PGD-084: As long as this card remains face-up on the field, all effects of Magic, Trap, and/or Effect Monster Cards that involve Graveyards are negated and neither player can remove cards in the Graveyards from play. In addition, increase the ATK and DEF of all monsters that includes "Gravekeeper's" in their card name by 500 points.

DL3-001: As long as this card remains face-up on the field, all effects of Spell, Trap, and/or Effect Monster Cards that involve Graveyards are negated and neither player can remove cards in the Graveyards from play. In addition, increase the ATK and DEF of all monsters that includes "Gravekeeper's" in their card name by 500 points.

DR1-EN032: As long as this card remains on the field, negate the effects of Spell, Trap, and Monster Cards that affect a card(s) in the Graveyard, and neither player can remove cards in the Graveyards from play. Also, as long as this card remains on the field, increase the ATK and DEF of all monsters that include "Gravekeeper's" in their card name by 500 points.

CP03-EN020: Negate the effects of Spell, Trap, and Monster Cards that affect a card(s) in the Graveyard. Neither player can remove from play cards in the Graveyard. All "Gravekeeper's" monsters gain 500 ATK and DEF.

TU02-EN014: Negate the effects of Spells, Traps, and Effect Monsters that target a card(s) in either player's Graveyard. Cards in either player's Graveyard cannot be removed from play. All "Gravekeeper's" monsters gain 500 ATK and DEF.

SDMA-EN025: All "Gravekeeper's" monsters gain 500 ATK and DEF. Cards in either player's Graveyard cannot be removed from play. Cards in either player's Graveyard cannot be affected by card effects, except for their own effects.

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Gottoms's Emergency Call

En la semi-final me equivoque en algo del rulling de esta carta. Y era que si removias una copia de las 2 cartas que designabas con gottoms' Emergency Call el efecto dessaparecia. tal como lo comprueba este rulling:
"If either of the "X-Saber" monsters targeted by this card is not in the Graveyard when it resolves, the other one is not Summoned."

**Pido Disculpas a Cristian por el error cometido en esa instancia sin ser mi intención el hacer Ruleshark**


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Scrap Dragon

En la cuarta ronda si mal no recuerdo hubo un desconocimiento de parte de los jugadores en el efecto de dicha carta. Explicare la situacion:

Jugador A: Tiene Colossal Fighter y 2 M/T Seteadas
Jugador B: Tiene Scrap Dragon y 1 M/T Seteada
Jugador B: Activa el efecto de Scrap Dragon Eligiendo para destruir su M/T y Colossal Fighter.
Jugador A: Responde Activando "Mystical Space Typhoon" y eligiendo destruir la M/T Seteada del jugador A

En ese momento surgió la duda de que pasaba. pues la carta que elegia el jugador A desaparecería y con esto el jugador B suponia que el efecto desaparecia. La explicacion afortunadamente esta en el Rulling de Scrap Dragon:
"If one of this card’s targets for destruction is no longer on the field when this effect resolves or cannot be destroyed when this effect resolves, the other card is still destroyed."

Respondiendo la situacion que se daba en el momento.

Aprovecho de aclarar una posible Misconcepcion futura:
"If control of either or both of the targets shifts before Scrap Dragon resolves, the targets are still destroyed."

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Royal Oppression

Basicamente, la duda era con la siguiente jugada:

Jugador A: Juega "XX-Saber Faultroll"
Jugador B: Activa el efecto de "Royal Oppression" (para 800 LP por coste de activacion)
Jugador A: Juega "Mystical Space Typhoon" designando Royal Oppression.

La resolucion termina en que el jugador B pierde 800 LP y Royal oppression no cumple su efecto a causa de que es una Trampa Continua, la que debe estar hasta el final de la resolucion del efecto para que el efecto se cumpla; ademas de que este rulling lo corrobora:

"If the effect of "Royal Oppression" is activated, and "Mystical Space Typhoon", "Twister", etc. is chained to destroy "Royal Oppression", then the effect of "Royal Oppression" disappears because it is a Continuous Trap Card, and the Special Summon will not be negated."

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Bueno, eso fue todo por este Fin de semana.
cualquier duda favor de comunicarmelo.

Saludos
Parshath